No, like Saethydd said, they won't get disfellowshipped according to an old Witchtower that I once read. It stated that parents were obligated to take care of minors under the law (secular) but they were not to have any "spiritual" associations with their minor children. I guess no family worship for them!
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Just a dumb question. A minor was df in our cong 15 yrs old
by poopie inthe question is can her mother and father who are witnesses greet her in the morning only or would they be a sharer in her wicked deeds and thus also be df for saying a greeting?.
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elders are leaving me alone. what to make of this?
by nowwhat? ini am a born in that goes back to the 1960's i am in a very zealous congregation with super dub elders.
i have been inactive for 3 years and only go to about 2 meetings a month.
i made my displeasure known about the overlapping generation b.s.
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Since then the elders neither harass me or encourage me. Am I just lucky?
You are. Now forget about it unless you want to trim down your attendance to once a month followed by the once a year Memorial.
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Disfellowshipping - Quid Pro Quo - Satan's Accusation
by doublespeak in.
if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.
taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.
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Saethydd,
What if the god of the Bible is actually just a test given by the true creator to see whether humans actually have any moral sense, or if they would be willing to follow any God no matter how cruel a depraved his actions.
I thought of something similar, hypothetically though.
What if there was a moralistic god and a depraved devil and it was that devil invented the Bible just to mislead people and get them to commit heinous crimes? It would not have required that this god imagine this as a test but allowing the Devil to use it would amount to the same thing.
As Thomas Paine said:
“Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel.”
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Disfellowshipping - Quid Pro Quo - Satan's Accusation
by doublespeak in.
if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.
taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.
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A little off topic but -
On the issue of God's deal with the Devil in order to prove the faithfulness of his worshiper Job, I'm reminded of something I was told by an elder.
He said that Jehovah allowed his worshippers - JWs - to be misled about the end coming soon because if they didn't believe that then they would become unfaithful. How I wish that he could be here for me to respond. And the response would be:
If the Witnesses can't accept an ordinary life of growing up; having children; and growing old; then how worthless would their faith have be? Would you expect them to put up with several months or even a few years of persecution in the Great Tribulation? Wouldn't they be proving that Satan was right just because they wanted their paradise now and not immediately after their death from old age?
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Disfellowshipping - Quid Pro Quo - Satan's Accusation
by doublespeak in.
if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.
taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.
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evilApostate,
The funny thing about pascal's wager is that there exists many gods and religious beliefs concerning said gods.
The problem with Pascal's wager is that it assumes a moralistic god who cares about good and evil and/or your wellbeing. What if a creator god doesn't give a fig about you whether you believe in him or not?
On the other hand let's assume that God is a moralistic god who doesn't mind whether you believe in him or not?
Pascal's idea of god was limited by Judeo-Christian concepts, not Deistic or non-biblical Theism.
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Is the year 2020 the new prediction for Armageddon?
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
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Schnell, that song used to be a childhood favorite of mine.
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Is the year 2020 the new prediction for Armageddon?
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
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Why should you generalize an opinion from one JW to all of them?
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Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.
making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.
he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.
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From the LA Times:
The president elect comes to the job with the habits of an entrepreneur and a showman, not a manager of large organization. He's known for making decisions based on the last advice he heard. He makes policy pronouncements on Twitter, often without his aides knowing in advance.
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"Trump is further behind on taking control of the bureaucracy than any President in history."
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"Trump has never dealt with a bureaucracy like this," Light said. "His businesses are flat, and that's fine. But the federal government is arguably the least flat organization there is; it has 63 layers of executives and managers."
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-mcmanus-trump-chaos-20170108-story.html
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Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.
making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.
he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.
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Vidiot,
I don't think he'll cower so much as just not give a shit.
You have a point.
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Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.
making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.
he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.
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I believe that it's not what Trump does that will endanger us but what he will not do. The Russians can overrun Eastern Europe and he would just cower and do nothing.